Barry Weiss

Lay out for us, Tyler, if you would, what is the difference between open and closed and what's actually the, like what's at stake existentially in the debate between open and closed?

Let's talk about the national security threat that DeepSeek and all of these other technologies or apps or AI models from China create. We know that Congress passed a law with overwhelming bipartisan support saying that TikTok presents a national security threat and it needs to be not banned.

Let's talk about the national security threat that DeepSeek and all of these other technologies or apps or AI models from China create. We know that Congress passed a law with overwhelming bipartisan support saying that TikTok presents a national security threat and it needs to be not banned.

Let's talk about the national security threat that DeepSeek and all of these other technologies or apps or AI models from China create. We know that Congress passed a law with overwhelming bipartisan support saying that TikTok presents a national security threat and it needs to be not banned.

I know that that language isn't correct, but needs to be sold just as Grindr was once sold to an American owner because of that threat. The Supreme Court went to the federal court, then the Supreme Court unanimously upheld that decision. If TikTok presents a national security threat, doesn't it follow that DeepSeek is also one, Jeff?

I know that that language isn't correct, but needs to be sold just as Grindr was once sold to an American owner because of that threat. The Supreme Court went to the federal court, then the Supreme Court unanimously upheld that decision. If TikTok presents a national security threat, doesn't it follow that DeepSeek is also one, Jeff?

I know that that language isn't correct, but needs to be sold just as Grindr was once sold to an American owner because of that threat. The Supreme Court went to the federal court, then the Supreme Court unanimously upheld that decision. If TikTok presents a national security threat, doesn't it follow that DeepSeek is also one, Jeff?

The thing that I'm fascinated by is let's just take TikTok because deep seek, I don't think is on ordinary Americans radar in the same way yet. Maybe it will be in the next few weeks, given the speed of everything right now. But 170 million Americans know basically what you've said, right? They know China does bad stuff. They might not know all the details.

The thing that I'm fascinated by is let's just take TikTok because deep seek, I don't think is on ordinary Americans radar in the same way yet. Maybe it will be in the next few weeks, given the speed of everything right now. But 170 million Americans know basically what you've said, right? They know China does bad stuff. They might not know all the details.

The thing that I'm fascinated by is let's just take TikTok because deep seek, I don't think is on ordinary Americans radar in the same way yet. Maybe it will be in the next few weeks, given the speed of everything right now. But 170 million Americans know basically what you've said, right? They know China does bad stuff. They might not know all the details.

They know that by using TikTok, the Chinese Communist Party has access to important, maybe sensitive data, and 170 million Americans decided we don't really care. Tyler, what do you make of that? Like, people like Jeff spend a lot of their time writing important op-eds and books about why this should matter, and most people are just saying, but I want to watch my 10-second videos.

They know that by using TikTok, the Chinese Communist Party has access to important, maybe sensitive data, and 170 million Americans decided we don't really care. Tyler, what do you make of that? Like, people like Jeff spend a lot of their time writing important op-eds and books about why this should matter, and most people are just saying, but I want to watch my 10-second videos.

They know that by using TikTok, the Chinese Communist Party has access to important, maybe sensitive data, and 170 million Americans decided we don't really care. Tyler, what do you make of that? Like, people like Jeff spend a lot of their time writing important op-eds and books about why this should matter, and most people are just saying, but I want to watch my 10-second videos.

How do you square those things?

How do you square those things?

How do you square those things?

Say more about that, Tyler. What do you mean a sleep at the wheel? And how do you figure that it's waking people up?

Say more about that, Tyler. What do you mean a sleep at the wheel? And how do you figure that it's waking people up?

Say more about that, Tyler. What do you mean a sleep at the wheel? And how do you figure that it's waking people up?

Jeff, I'd love for you to respond to a thing Tyler said that I suspect you disagree with and would love to hear your take on it about The idea of listening to China more. And Tyler, maybe you want to put a little bit more meat on the bones there so Jeff can respond to it. But that sentence stuck out to me. What do you mean by that?