Barry Weiss

And it has just been reissued in paperback. With the ceasefire deal underway in Israel, with Trump, I think, 72 hours into being president again, I could not think of a better person to talk to than Sebag. So, Simon Sebag Montefiore, welcome to Honestly.

And it has just been reissued in paperback. With the ceasefire deal underway in Israel, with Trump, I think, 72 hours into being president again, I could not think of a better person to talk to than Sebag. So, Simon Sebag Montefiore, welcome to Honestly.

And it has just been reissued in paperback. With the ceasefire deal underway in Israel, with Trump, I think, 72 hours into being president again, I could not think of a better person to talk to than Sebag. So, Simon Sebag Montefiore, welcome to Honestly.

It's great to see you too.

It's great to see you too.

It's great to see you too.

Exactly. So we saw each other the afternoon of the election.

Exactly. So we saw each other the afternoon of the election.

Exactly. So we saw each other the afternoon of the election.

We did call it right. But neither of us had the cojones to go on Twitter and say we think Trump's going to win. But we both acknowledged to each other privately that we thought Trump was going to win. And I think the feeling that both of us felt that day was a kind of nauseous anticipation and a sense that something big was coming.

We did call it right. But neither of us had the cojones to go on Twitter and say we think Trump's going to win. But we both acknowledged to each other privately that we thought Trump was going to win. And I think the feeling that both of us felt that day was a kind of nauseous anticipation and a sense that something big was coming.

We did call it right. But neither of us had the cojones to go on Twitter and say we think Trump's going to win. But we both acknowledged to each other privately that we thought Trump was going to win. And I think the feeling that both of us felt that day was a kind of nauseous anticipation and a sense that something big was coming.

And I don't think either of us felt like the big thing was Trump, but something maybe beyond him on the horizon. Can you maybe take us back to that conversation and take us to like how you felt on the eve of his election and how you're feeling today and what you think it portends?

And I don't think either of us felt like the big thing was Trump, but something maybe beyond him on the horizon. Can you maybe take us back to that conversation and take us to like how you felt on the eve of his election and how you're feeling today and what you think it portends?

And I don't think either of us felt like the big thing was Trump, but something maybe beyond him on the horizon. Can you maybe take us back to that conversation and take us to like how you felt on the eve of his election and how you're feeling today and what you think it portends?

I think a lot of people feel like the consensus politics that we grew up under, thinking about Clinton, I'm thinking about the idea that history had ended, as you sort of alluded to it, that liberalism and capitalism were obviously better and therefore were going to conquer the world, that now seems so naive. How did we get that so wrong?

I think a lot of people feel like the consensus politics that we grew up under, thinking about Clinton, I'm thinking about the idea that history had ended, as you sort of alluded to it, that liberalism and capitalism were obviously better and therefore were going to conquer the world, that now seems so naive. How did we get that so wrong?

I think a lot of people feel like the consensus politics that we grew up under, thinking about Clinton, I'm thinking about the idea that history had ended, as you sort of alluded to it, that liberalism and capitalism were obviously better and therefore were going to conquer the world, that now seems so naive. How did we get that so wrong?

How did so many so-called experts tell us that we had come to an end of history itself? And that's so obviously, whether it's Trump here or Maloney or Malay or I could go on and on and on, people are enthusiastically electing those that stand for a very different set of values.

How did so many so-called experts tell us that we had come to an end of history itself? And that's so obviously, whether it's Trump here or Maloney or Malay or I could go on and on and on, people are enthusiastically electing those that stand for a very different set of values.