Bart Butler

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you · 16 Jul 2026 podcast

Well, it is a cost.

It's maybe not as much of a cost as you might think, right?

We already have employees in different countries.

We have satellite offices.

We have other things.

We have data centers in Germany, we have our data centers in Norway.

Not to be too blase about it, but we could do a corporate inversion to somewhere else and then say, okay, all the legal requests have to come through here.

I'm going to have to defer on that because I'm not a lawyer.

I have no idea.

But I'm sure it's possible.

Yeah.

I can't.

I don't know.

I'd have to consult with other people for that.

I'm not deep in that.

But it's a real threat.

I know it's a real threat.

And I know we've made some preparations about where we could possibly land for this if both the EU and Switzerland become inhospitable to this.

There are separate things.

There's the practical challenges that we all know this stuff is happening.

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