Bart Butler

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681 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 16 Jul

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you · 16 Jul 2026 podcast

But I think that there are a couple of things that make it different.

I mentioned before

a lot of constraints.

But one thing I didn't mention is we don't have VC investors.

We don't have private equity investors.

We aren't burning other people's money with VCs breathing down our necks that we must exit soon or otherwise we go belly up, right?

Our goal, we built a sustainable business.

We reinvest the profits from that business back into the business.

And this insulates us from some of the pressure, which I'm sure OpenEye felt, given that they were lighting enormous stacks of money on fire all the time.

But that said, personnel is policy.

There's certainly always this risk.

And at the same time, sometimes you find it...

We've found out a lot recently that sometimes rules or otherwise or norms or guidelines, unwritten or not, they're not worth the paper that they're written on.

But that's also where the architecture comes in.

We make choices about the tech stuff.

And obviously, I'm on the tech side of this business, but we have made choices.

And some of that is...

for business competitive reasons, right?

We want to sell products where we say, we can't access your data.

We don't have access to the data.

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