Baseball Analyst
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Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Yeah, I mean, I honestly came in knowing nothing. I don't think my agents knew anything about the arbitrators other than that they're supposed to be neutral.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Well, you always hear kind of like, you can't... you can't like be friends with these people. They're going to talk trash about you and they're going to mean it and all this kind of stuff. So it's like, it wasn't the best, sorry. It wasn't the best advice from, dude, I know it's like so stupid. It's like holding his iPhone. Nah, I'm like, I'm holding wires out of the way.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
I'm in this horrible spot. The sun's coming in on me. My phone's dying. Can't find my AirPods, you know? This is Dan Ogleth.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
So after I get done here, y'all need to talk about five minutes while I charge it because I got to unplug my… So anyways.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
It's a good one.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Amazing. If you guys were better, we'd have more fans. I thought that was a good one.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Like you hear horror stories, and you learn pretty quick that like, all right, am I going to be tough? Is this going to bother me? You realize it's part of the business. Your first instinct is to be like, oh, man, F these guys. I can't believe they're not paying me. I deserve all this. All of it poured on, you know? And that just wasn't our relationship.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
I think that has a lot to do with David just being straight up with us. And I would tell all the players that are going to go through it that haven't been through it, embrace it. Enjoy it. It's part of it. It means you're good that you're going through this.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
I was actually, yeah, I was actually pretty, I was like, holy, they're comparing me to this guy. Oh man, that's cool. You know, and they're like telling me that I never got an MVP vote and this guy has, I'm like, that means I might should have got an MVP vote. You know, I got screwed in that.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Yeah, you know? I was never supposed to be there in the first place. You know? It just so happens.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Oh, yeah. I didn't even see it because I was so high-fiving.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
My name is Dan Ugla. I tell everybody that comes in here, this is the house that David and Jeffrey Laurie built. They're like, David who? I was like, David Sampson. They're like, oh, I know who that is, yeah. Outspoken is actually a very good adjective, but for lack of a better vocabulary, that's kind of what I'm going with right now.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
It was early in the morning and we, uh... You know, I was up at 7.30 in the morning, couldn't sleep. And I think we got the phone call somewhere around like 8.30, 9 o'clock. It was quick. It was early. And they said, we have ruled in your favor. And it was just like, you know, like an explosion. It was like jumped up, five-year-old kid to me, jumping on the bed, screaming and yelling.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
All my agents and everybody come running in. We had like eight people in the house. We're all like on the bed jumping together. Yeah. You know, a pop in champagne. And I was like, you know, it's like it was it was party time, man. It was great. Mine was a little different.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Making me blush. I'm not used to all the flowers. Thank you.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
You're so fidgety. Let me get a... I was going to say, do you have an office?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
there was such a foundation of like friendship, business friendship, business relationship, you know, just knowing each other past baseball, knowing those families and everything that, you know, we're having pizza in New York at four in the morning some nights. And there's no like, what are you doing? Or everybody's like trying to hide from the other.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
It's like, we're all in there being people together. And we had built that foundation. Honestly, I mean, it didn't, I guess it could have made us a little stronger when we got through it because anytime you go through something like that and you're still friends or whatever, it makes you strong. But we were already so strong.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Here we go. Let me get some. I need a place to put this thing. I mean, jeez louise. Here we go. Here we go. I remember my first Zoom. Yeah, it's horrible, right? It's so unprepared. Here we go.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
I was actually on the verge of possibly setting the record for the most money ever in arbitration received by, I don't know if it was like all players or just second baseman. I can't remember. But I know that that was like- It was old white power hitters. Because- In the lead club.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Right? So I think that Mark was set at like 5'5", or somewhere around there. And David, I believe you guys were around 4'2", 4'1".
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
And by getting to that point, you know, we obviously there's a big gap between negotiations and that we couldn't come to. So so that's how you end up in the room.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
That's a better way to put it, yeah.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
Hey, we're budgeting over here. Budgeting. Budgeting. Can you get in front of your World Series jersey? That's right, dog. That's in a safety deposit box. Safety deposit box.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
I didn't sign for a lot of money. I signed for 40 grand out of college. And so the league minimum, once I got to the big leagues, was my first kind of situation with decent money, right? So now I'm about to become a millionaire. It's either going to be 4.4, you said, or over 5 million. So I'm excited either way, right? I'm excited either way. You're wearing your best suit.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports
You're like, you're prepared. You're like, you know, I set some records going in. So I'm pretty cocky. I'm like, man, these got no chance. You know, we're going to embarrass them, right? You know, my agents are like pumping me up and then we go in and then they present their case and I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm not as good. I'm not, not as good as I thought I was.