The Room: Behind Closed Doors of the Messiest Ritual in Sports

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How does the salary arbitration process affect players?

Pablo Torre 1:25
He went for the money. Cody, you went for love and fame and World Series and LCS MVPs. You're welcome, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. The nicest gift I ever gave you. That's the truth. Getting rid of your ass.
David Samson 1:44
You know, you really embody this team, what it's all about. I mean, Florida didn't want you. They put you on waivers. This team put a claim in on you. And here you are, the NLCS MVP.
Giants President 1:54
I can't thank the Giants enough for giving me the opportunity to come over here.
Pablo Torre 2:00
One dollar. One dollar. It was a dollar. It was a waiver claim. And the Giants called us after they claimed him and said, you're not going to let him go to us, right? We were just blocking him from going to any of our competitors. And we were like, we're not paying Cody the rest of the year. We're letting him go.

What are the emotional stakes for players during arbitration?

Pablo Torre 2:15
Larry Bear called the commissioner to try to interject because they didn't want to take on his money. And we were like, sorry, if you're going to play the game of trying to block your competitors from getting a player, you have to risk taking the player. And we called Cody into the office and said, Cody, love you, man, but you've been claimed by the Giants. Go speak to the traveling secretary because you're getting on a plane. It's your ass out. We had cleaned out his locker. We had done everything.
Host 3:03
I want to explain one of the craziest rituals, processes in sports to people that have no idea what it is. And in the course of doing that, we will learn about your relationship. But I do want to just like establish some basics. So at the beginning here, because there are now three voices that are not mine on this episode, could you say your name, when you played for the Marlins, and maybe an adjective that best describes your former boss, David Sampson?
Baseball Analyst 3:31
My name is Dan Ugla. I tell everybody that comes in here, this is the house that David and Jeffrey Laurie built. They're like, David who? I was like, David Sampson. They're like, oh, I know who that is, yeah. Outspoken is actually a very good adjective, but for lack of a better vocabulary, that's kind of what I'm going with right now.
Cody Ross 3:56
Woody Ross played for the Marlins from 2006 to 2010. First of all, Dan, you're making me dizzy, bro. You're like moving around. I know. I mean, I'm like, I had too much wine last night, maybe. I don't know. But you're going to like stay still for a second.
Baseball Analyst 4:15
You're so fidgety. Let me get a... I was going to say, do you have an office?
Cody Ross 4:22
I do have an office. Do you have an office in your 15,000-square-foot house?
Baseball Analyst 4:25
Here we go. Let me get some. I need a place to put this thing. I mean, jeez louise. Here we go. Here we go. I remember my first Zoom. Yeah, it's horrible, right? It's so unprepared. Here we go.
Fantasy Baseball Expert 4:40
That's what Josh Johnson did. Hanley's homer and triple. Dad, uncle, did you? His name is Dan Ugla!
Host 4:53
Wow! There's the guy I drafted in fantasy baseball.
Cody Ross 4:55
There he is. Anyways, back to me. Yeah, so 2006-2010... Never really got an opportunity at the first few places that I was at. And then got to the Marlins and had an incredible opportunity. I remember being with the Dodgers in spring training in 06. And I was just praying. I'm like, please, let me go to the Marlins. I see what they're doing over there. They're young and they're enthusiastic.

How does the arbitration system differ from other sports?

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Pablo Torre 0:59
Look at his background. I like Cody's background better than Ugg's. You don't like the wood shades? You don't like the wood shades? That's the best you got for $60 million? You got wood shades?
Baseball Analyst 1:12
Hey, we're budgeting over here. Budgeting. Budgeting. Can you get in front of your World Series jersey? That's right, dog. That's in a safety deposit box. Safety deposit box.

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