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Bastian Jaeger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
209 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And there's a lot of irony there, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

He's investing in this technology.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

There is, but I guess maybe because of his involvement in the industry, he realizes the existential threat it poses to people whose careers are literally based on their likeness, based on their voice, what they look like, what they sound like, how they move.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And that if that can be easily replicated digitally, then that puts their career under threat.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And so he's trying to play both sides of the fence.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And I think also it gives the industry more to work with because if Eleven Labs can't find a legal way to sell its products online,

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And by cooperating with the U.S.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

Patent and Trademark Office and cooperating with stars like Matthew McConaughey, then it has no hope.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

So he's got to strike a pretty fine balance.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

Yeah, and the money, it is into the trillions.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

OpenAI alone, which is the company that invented ChatGPT, they've committed to spending $1.4 trillion on AI infrastructure over the next eight years.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

So things like data centers, the power grid to power them, the networks to connect them.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

It's really expensive being an AI company, and if you're giving it away for free, and ChatGPT is largely free, they do have subscription tiers as well on top of it, but that's not enough to really make it a sustainable business.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

It loses huge amounts of money because it's so expensive to build all that capacity.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

At some point, you've got to monetize it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

You've got to convert all of those free 800 million users who are using it regularly into revenue.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

Google did it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

Everyone else is doing it as well.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

Meta did it with Facebook and Instagram.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Trademark Yourself - January 22, 2026

And I would expect that the AI industry is going to do the same thing.