Beatie Wolfe

It almost feels like it's, I don't know, it feels like you're falling off the world, you know, or you're sinking into the deepest wormhole or you're expanding out across galaxies.

And it has this feeling of,

no borders, you know, of nothing that can contain it.

That to me is what gives me the feeling of Dark Matter.

The reason this track also has a kind of particular gravitas to it for me is because after we made it, I

went out to Portugal to visit my mom.

And I was sitting in this little area of the national park that's by her house on a rock.

And all around was a panoramic view of the Atlantic, you know, that was surrounding me.

and i thought oh i'm gonna listen to this track that we just made we'd made it maybe five days before but it just suddenly felt like it needed to be played in that environment with this whole view of the ocean all around and these swallows dancing in the air and this wonderful open sky

So I played it through the kind of shitty speakers, just ambiently, you know, with the other environmental noise.

And so I thought, oh God, I kind of want to even call Brian so he could hear it in this environment, but I had not taken my phone.

So I walked back to my mom's house and I saw I had a message from Brian saying, I just listened to that song we made the other day.

And we had been listening to that song in exactly the same moment.

He was, you know, in Norfolk and I was in Portugal.

Completely unplanned synchronization.

And so now whenever I hear that, I kind of have that rolling ocean and, you know, portals and black holes and just, you know, this sense of these worlds lining up.

Oh, yeah.

See, you said it better.

I mean, I shouldn't really comment.

And actually, a lot of the time, I think both of us don't like to say too much sometimes because, you know, the way I think about it is...