Bella Freud

Hi, come in.

Welcome to Fashion Neurosis, Stephen Jones.

I'm very happy to see you here and our long friendship being cemented by me in the chair and you on the couch.

Can you tell me what you're wearing today and why you chose these particular clothes?

Oh, it's so good.

Especially to see the crown because I remember though some of the fabrics because when Vivian was thinking about it, when I was working for her and she was working on the

the tweed collection, she sent me off to Berwick Street Market to bring back jewel-like velvets to be in the crown.

And I remember the velvet that acts as the ermine on the one you're wearing and the ones with glitter and getting all these really kitsch cuttings of velvet from Borovik.

So I don't even know if that's still there, I doubt it.

Is it?

Well, it was such a great shop and they had hundreds of different things, but they seemed to specialize in this, you know, these crazy things that you wouldn't ever be seen dead in, but actually were unbelievably useful and, you know.

Camperama.

Yeah.

Because it was when Vivian was set up in Greenland Street in Camden.

And Stephen Linard, I think, was downstairs.

And Trevor, who made the shoes for Vivian, the rocking horse shoes.

So there was a little kind of... It was such a dump, the place.

But it was a hive of, you know, creative activity.

It would have been 80... I think I worked either 85 or maybe 86.

86 to 89 I was there.