Bella Freud

How incredible.

I mean, it's just immaculate.

It's so perfect.

It just gets in your bloodstream.

It's fantastic.

That's great.

And you spend quite a lot of time naked on stage.

And I wondered, how are you different when you're naked with the person that you're in love with?

And are you ever shy when you're naked?

I wear like, yeah, I have... Like breasts and things.

Yeah, that's so interesting.

Yeah.

Because on stage you sometimes have a dildo or a microphone in your hot pants and Art Forum described you as the electro pop princess of porn.

But you're graphic, but would you describe yourself as pornographic?

Well, it's very, it is very full of humor and wit and it's intelligent, you know, it's thought provoking and so playful and the whole feeling of optimism around your performance is one of,

one of the things I'm really drawn to as well.

I think there's a humor, and it's such a sort of cliche, but it's a great way to learn more.

Yeah, well, it's very effective.

It's very joyous.

I mean, it really, and so that feeling is energizing and gives you drive and kind of relax as well.