Bella Freud

What were you drawn to about, what are you drawn to about her?

Because I think, you know, when I read that, that you cited her and I thought, God, she would have loved that.

It would have meant so much.

She was a modern, you know, she was a, she had a shyness about her as well.

Yeah, she had a lot of courage.

So cool you met her, I'm shook.

I know, I suddenly, when I saw that, I thought, God, yeah, I can still picture her, you know, sort of, I can't remember whether she smoked, I'm sure she did.

I mean, we all just picturing her kind of slightly hunched over in the shop and just talking and she just had a lot of courage and we were really caught up in,

in her atmosphere and feel feeling protective towards her as well because when you were a young freelance dancer in other people's videos and you had a reputation you said for being reliable which is a kind of unusual quality at such a young age and i wondered how how you'd set out to be reliable well i think that's probably my stepdad i mean he's um

There's so much.

I'm rambling.

No, not at all.

It's interesting that you can have that knowledge about yourself at such a young age.

And do you think that was instilled and that partly came from this good value system that you learned from your stepfather and the fact that you were encouraged to

and rewarded for your reliability rather than punished for any deviation?

And you said about your name, FKA Twigs, that you wanted a selection of letters that sounded almost masculine.

And it doesn't stand for anything.

It's just a series of capital letters.

And I wondered, did you want the masculine element to sort of act like reputation, like the ancient Greeks did?

when you were talking about, you know, having this wanting to be, have your feminine self, but have this kind of slightly soldiery kind of demeanor as well?