Bella Freud

What about you?

Capricorn.

Oh, like Kate Moss.

Of course.

And I've seen pictures of you at Rick Owens' fashion shows and you wear his clothes, you're wearing his amazing boots today.

And I love Rick Owens so much.

And I wondered, what is it that makes, I find, what makes one feel so special when you're close to him?

Rick.

Mm-hmm.

No, I think it... Well, how I was receiving it was almost like his clothes... You know, like they have those horrible garments that...

change color when your temperature changes.

But there's something about his clothes that they show, they seem like you described reveal part of you that maybe is reticent if you're in a different mode.

And I feel like his clothes do that and it's coming from him.

And I don't know Rick that well, but I feel this enormous,

good kind of feeling towards him and i feel like he kind of generates that into his what he makes and how he lives his life and his kind of family community yeah yeah yeah because what he does is based around community and um

people that are quite awake you know people that are curious about the world and value system really value system but yeah Rick has that in his own way as well and if you fancy someone and don't like what they're wearing does it kill your attraction no no I've dated plenty of people that don't have like a

There's no repellent factor in any garment?

I mean, not really.

Mm-hmm.

And your album, Eusexua, is a word that you invented, but it seems very much like a word that we need.