Bella Freud

You just seem to be generating so much happiness.

I mean, it's incredible.

It really is so striking and affecting.

Really happy tears.

Yeah.

I almost cried when you spoke about polystyrene.

Oh, God.

Also, when I was reading about you, Mike Chapman,

Is it Mike Chapman?

Being like mentoring you and saying you were like Annabella Lewin.

And I saw them perform and I actually auditioned for Bow Wow Wow at one point because they kicked her out.

They were always rowing with her and they kicked her out of the band and

auditioned various people one of whom was me and I totally didn't get in and then they took her back because they couldn't find anyone as good as there you go yeah she was fantastic that's what the box used to do to me when I really when I worked at the box I'd always like fire me and then try and audition other people and two weeks later have to ask me back yeah god and I'd always go back

Hi, come in.

You're the one with the charmed life.

There is no perfect past, but there is also no exclusively negative past.

Because humans are going to human.

That's what we do.

I think the story of America is the struggle of people who have not been included in the promise of America to expand those principles to include more people.

Okay, so I'm just going to be a jerk here because I'm a historian.