Ben Clymer

And for people like me who know a lot about this product in particular, I can look you or anybody in the eye and say, yeah, if you can afford this watch, it's a great fucking product.

The other brand that I've mentioned a lot in this episode here is Omega.

And I think Omega now is doing, they've learned a lot from Rolex, if I can say.

And nobody's told me that, but I can just see it.

The Omega Speedmaster, which went to the moon organically, you know, it's not like they paid NASA for that.

That is the greatest achievement of humankind.

We sent men to the moon.

It's insane.

And there was a Rolex, to be clear, in contention for that.

And NASA chose the Speedmaster over.

That's just the facts.

And so the Speedmaster was not, believe it or not, the commercial stalwart that it is for Omega now.

Up until probably five years ago, it was the Seamaster.

It was Daiwa.

And Omega is actually a larger brand in China than Rolex is, believe it or not.

You know, they were driven by Chinese consumers.

It was a lot of different colors and kind of interesting things.

Then all of a sudden, the current president, a guy named Reynald Eschmann,

came in and said, you know what?

The Speedmaster is iconic.