Ben Domenech

But that fact gives me a lot of optimism about this moment and with this president when I am probably, you know, historically the most war skeptical of, you know, many of the people who are part of Daily Wire.

And that is, you know, born again out of.

I believe, sort of a naivete that we had in the past.

I don't think the president has that naivete.

I think he wants to get this done.

He wants to get it settled.

And he does not want it to be the kind of thing that he has asked about after his presidency.

Do you wish you had handled this differently?

There's a serious aspect of this, and then there's one that is actually very fun.

And I resent the idea that making fun of Piers Morgan is something that is out of balance because it's just too much fun to do.

But here's the thing.

What you are getting at is something that I think is important, which is that we shouldn't allow these wars, which I believe are fun to fight and good to fight, arguments that are worth having, if only, by the way, to show that the other side of it often does not have any willingness to argue or debate.

or actually deal with any of the ramifications of the things that they're saying, which tells you enough.

But I also think that we have to make sure that there's some balance there.

You can't only be about the podcast wars because that's like only watching Bravo for the real housewife reunions.

It is not the best use of your time or good for your mental health, even if you can talk about it for weeks on end.

And so that's the thing that I think we need to just have some perspective on it

But the podcast wars actually are representative on some point, at some point of different sides within these arguments that are taking place.

I just think that they are.

Are they?