Ben Domenech

That's my question.

Are they?

I don't think they really are.

And in this case- Can I jump in here for a second?

I just want to make something clear.

Michael, I think that a lot of us feel like if you don't speak up and point these things out, you are effectively abandoning the field.

You're basically treating it the way that a lot of Republicans used to treat an issue like abortion, where they just didn't want to talk about it.

So what would happen?

What would happen is the Democrat would entirely talk about it.

They would define the terms.

They would determine what the debate was about.

And they would attempt to reframe the issue.

We saw this happen time and again, by the way, in Virginia.

And that's the kind of thing that leads to a false depiction of people who are trying to advocate for moral right as being extremists, when in reality, they're just saying, we want to stop killing babies.

But just to take that to the Candace Owens situation, for example, I just don't think...

You don't have to engage with every amount of crazy.

But I do think that one of the things that's really been important and worthwhile is that I used to love Tucker.

I have known Tucker.

I met him when I was 15 years old at the Mayflower.

It was always very nice to me.