Ben Domenech

Both men and women and in between.

You know, you can't really go wrong with the cast there.

Yeah, I agree with that 100 percent.

And I think that is another thing that I have tried to instill in them as they've.

discovered Tolkien's works.

And they're still working their way through Lord of the Rings.

They both have started it.

I bought them their own little set of mass market paperbacks.

Oh, I love that.

And as they're reading those books, and they've seen the movies, the Peter Jackson movies, a bunch of times.

And we've read The Hobbit together.

But yeah, as they're going through those stories, I try to talk about those characters and just try to find those little teachable moments.

So yeah, I think it's true.

There's a lot of great role models there.

And I think just bringing them to that work

and teaching them to find those role models in fiction, whatever it is, some other book that they like someday.

Plenty of good role models like Feyenor, Aeol.

Oh, Aeol would have been another good one.

Do the opposite of whatever Aeol did.

I mean, seriously, my son's 14, so at some point soon I'm going to have to talk to him about