Ben Fisher

Like what are the skills that we can learn so that we're not just spending a weekend trying, making the same mistakes over and over again?

Is there a way for us or a process to sort of try to distill what are the skills and like things to focus on that in a more focused way, quite frankly.

And that was when we came across Eric's stuff and that was just really resonated.

Is that accurate?

Yeah, well, so Alchemy, I mean, it spun out in the sense that it was my next company.

I left Lean Startup Machine, I think, after about nine months.

We went separate ways.

Was it making money when you left it?

Yeah, yeah.

How was it generating revenue?

Just ticket sales?

Ticket sales, yeah.

It was one of those first experiences where it was four guys.

We met at a startup weekend.

We didn't really know each other.

And, you know, we...

we were really excited and interested, interested in enthusiastic.

Uh, we started lean startup machine.

Um, and then, you know, we were like, okay, this is great.

We're friends, but you know, we weren't necessarily great business partners.