Ben Harnwell

Could we start off, could you describe in a little more detail what you meant with that comparison?

I don't want to put words into your mouth, but suggesting, looking at the vertical vector first, that might indicate, I would suggest a movement, and I've said this on the show before, that I think the UK is heading more towards revolution.

Whereas the United States, I think, potentially would be moving more towards civil war.

But I think the signs are there in both countries for both phenomena.

But is it fair to characterize or to synthesize what you're saying by the vertical vector as being a sign that could lead towards revolution, whereas the...

The horizontal vector is a phenomenon that would indicate civil war.

I think you put that pretty elegantly.

And one of the problems with the UK, as you're suggesting, is that whereas in America, even if the social situation in America is pretty evenly split down the middle, one half believes

that the guy in charge is standing firmly in their corner.

In the UK, as you correctly point out, no one particularly, no one thinks that on either side of the political spectrum about Keir Starmer.

But I would also say that no one thinks that about any recent run of leaders of the Tory party as well.

And that's the particular...

issue I see that concerns me about the UK is that we have what's called the uniparty.

You know, the colour might change, but the policies are broadly identical one with another.

That said, it is interesting to see

just how bad the present Labour government is.

You get an idea of that by the fact that the government is trying to postpone local government elections in over 30 councils.

There's no good faith argument about this.

This is Keir Starmer trying to avoid what will be a very dangerously political situation.

result for him and his future credibility.