Ben Higgins

What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.

I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.

And immediately, the mask came off.

You're supposed to be safe.

That's your home.

That's your husband.

This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Bowen Yang.

During this season of the Two Guys, Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.

Hey, Elmo.

Hey, Matt.

Hey, Bowen.

Hi, Cookie.

Hi.

Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears.

what if mind control is real if you could control the behavior of anybody around you what kind of life would you have can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car when you look at your car you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you i gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused

Can you get someone to join your cult?

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology.