Ben Higgins

So you're thinking that he's so many steps down and you're not quite, you're not, you're not in step with him.

I want to pursue this.

I want to, I'm talking to him.

I'm enjoying the conversation.

All right, this is definitely, I don't think, what we expected to hear from you when we called you, and it's certainly not going to be on Roman's radar, I'd imagine.

Yeah.

But let's find out, because he is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.

Hey, how's it going?

Oh, my God.

Hi.

Hey, so I'm sorry if I made you feel like I was pushing things.

I really wasn't.

No, that's the thing, though.

You weren't.

It was just the situation evolved so nicely that it just sat kind of like, okay, well, here's the next step.

And that's a lot of pressure to put on somebody you just met.

I guess I could see where you're coming from.

Why didn't you tell me about the wedding season thing?

And that would have been okay.

Sure, you waited through wedding season, but then after that, you're going to have to put pressure on him around the holidays that are going to be coming up.