Ben Horowitz

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3,643 appearances 14 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2024 last heard 15 Jan

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The Ben & Marc Show · New AI Policy Update on Safety, Censorship & Unexpected Risks · 6 Nov 2024 podcast

worries uh on safeties on the one hand. podcast-host

The other kind of side of it is sort of publishing, you know, things that are illegal today, but essentially publishing instructions to make bombs, to uh make bioweapons, etc., etc. podcast-host

And then, you know, like the the the one that I think is actually in effect is uh find cybersecurity exploits and podcast-host

and uh offer ideas on how to uh kind of write programs that break into things. podcast-host

But those are kind of some of the areas around safety, actual safety. podcast-host

There's another category of safety, which is, you know, psychological safety, which we'll get into later. podcast-host

Yes, where should we start? podcast-host

Maybe we start with this whole idea of takeoff. podcast-host

Uh, because I think that's that's kind of the one that I I think was the argument that got furthest along and is still going. podcast-host

I mean, I think there are those uh podcast-host

who are still kind of pushing the the the flops limitation, I think, was, you know, partly about national security and partly about takeoff. podcast-host

So maybe you start there. podcast-host

An AI doing something that we don't know, nobody knows how to make it do yet, but we think that we might be able to figure out how to make it do. podcast-host

So that's really important to understand, I think. podcast-host

Yeah. podcast-host

we of course have a lot of uh experience doing such things, you know, including invading Iraq, including, you know, kind of outlawing nuclear power and creating basically the current climate change situation. podcast-host

And so the it it's not like it's free to go deal with this point zero zero zero one percent chance of something bad happening. podcast-host

Yep, yep. podcast-host

It it turns out, you know, pumping fossil fuels into the air in mass quantities for a long time could have issues. podcast-host

could have issues. podcast-host

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