Ben Horowitz

was basically that we had no voice.

Like, the whole industry had no voice in Washington.

So we kind of launched a very, very big effort to have a voice in Washington.

And I would say that it's worked very well.

So we have much better AI policy, much better energy policy, and much better...

crypto policy now than we did before we got involved.

So I'd say I'm like very happy about that.

And then all the kind of money and conversations have been about that.

Look, I mean, the other thing is, like I said, I gave money to Kamala because I know her.

I've known her for 15 years.

She's been to my house 17 times.

My wife sat next to her in church the whole time.

So I knew her.

So I knew I could talk to her.

Biden

Like we never could get a meeting with Biden for the whole time he was in office.

And if you speak to Tim Cook or Sundar Pichai or Dave Ricks, who runs Eli Lilly, none of them got a meeting with him in four years.

Now, we all know why now, but at the time we didn't know.

And the result of that was like tech had no voice in Washington for those times.

So, you know, it was a correction that we had to make.