Ben Horowitz
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And so if you look at why is open source important, and there's many reasons.
The first will just start academia.
Academia is completely out of the AI game if there's no open source.
So that goes away.
I think secondly, we just had a really interesting security incident with OpenAI hacking into Hugging Face.
And the only way Hugging Face was able to prevent it, because the proprietary models had guardrails which prevented them from doing security tasks, was to use an open source model.
And I think the important point there is you can't actually ban open source, of course.
It's out there.
It's a file.
It's on the internet.
We have no way of doing that.
And it reminds me of years ago when I was at Netscape, they tried to ban cryptography.
And the math is out there.
You're not going to ban it.
It's not actually possible.
But you can prevent the good guys from using it.
And that's what would happen, I think, in the case of an open source ban is, you know, the threats would be, well, you can't work with the U.S.
government if you use open source or you can't do this.
So a company like Hugging Face would not be able to actually use the product.
So that, you know, would be bad.
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