Ben Kartzman

Yeah, so that's all revenue-driven.

So thanks to our friends at Inc.

Magazine being able to measure revenue, I think, over the span of three years.

I think the first year that we measured revenue was 2009, and then that jumped into 2012, and it's kind of continued on.

Oh, uh, maybe, maybe a couple hundred thousand revenue or maybe, oh, nine was a million.

Maybe.

Oh, eight was a couple hundred thousand revenue.

Okay.

Oh, nine was a million.

And then it sort of has grown from there.

Yeah, I think we stopped, I don't remember what it was when we stopped, but it was maybe one and one to four and then four to seven and seven to 13 and just kind of kept growing in that.

That's the plan.

Yeah, so we're not disclosing full revenue these days because one of our largest investors, but we're on a nice path.

Yeah, so we've got about $26 million into the company.

The largest institutional investor is a group called Safeguard, based out in Philadelphia.

Very knowledgeable investors in the ad tech space, specifically.

They're a great partner for us.

So I think, yeah, for them, it's more of just focus on, you know, Inc.

I think is great in the early days as you're sort of building and getting growing.

And then from there, it becomes less about those awards and more just about execution and client delivery.