Ben Kissel

And a good wife and a good worker. Being all those things together is not easy. So basically I'm a ticking time bomb.

And a good wife and a good worker. Being all those things together is not easy. So basically I'm a ticking time bomb.

Obviously, we believe everybody. You want to believe people when they say they're getting abused, right? But Lori Vallow, you can't take away the end result of all this away from the way she treated people her whole life. She used people as tools, and she really did, I want to say, get a kick out of it. out of ruining people's lives. She did it several times. It is not just within this context.

Obviously, we believe everybody. You want to believe people when they say they're getting abused, right? But Lori Vallow, you can't take away the end result of all this away from the way she treated people her whole life. She used people as tools, and she really did, I want to say, get a kick out of it. out of ruining people's lives. She did it several times. It is not just within this context.

Obviously, we believe everybody. You want to believe people when they say they're getting abused, right? But Lori Vallow, you can't take away the end result of all this away from the way she treated people her whole life. She used people as tools, and she really did, I want to say, get a kick out of it. out of ruining people's lives. She did it several times. It is not just within this context.

She used to lie. I guess that's what it is. I'm steeped in all the other side stories about Lori. You start to see this whole picture that she... really would turn people against each other all the time. Sure. And she'd lie all the time. She was probably close to a pathological liar. Everybody got a different story about what she was doing and who did what at all times. So at some point...

She used to lie. I guess that's what it is. I'm steeped in all the other side stories about Lori. You start to see this whole picture that she... really would turn people against each other all the time. Sure. And she'd lie all the time. She was probably close to a pathological liar. Everybody got a different story about what she was doing and who did what at all times. So at some point...

She used to lie. I guess that's what it is. I'm steeped in all the other side stories about Lori. You start to see this whole picture that she... really would turn people against each other all the time. Sure. And she'd lie all the time. She was probably close to a pathological liar. Everybody got a different story about what she was doing and who did what at all times. So at some point...

I think that Lori is, I think bad things happen to her, but I also think she's massively full of shit. So I think that you just, it throws doubt on all the stuff that she talks about.

I think that Lori is, I think bad things happen to her, but I also think she's massively full of shit. So I think that you just, it throws doubt on all the stuff that she talks about.

I think that Lori is, I think bad things happen to her, but I also think she's massively full of shit. So I think that you just, it throws doubt on all the stuff that she talks about.

Yeah, his dad was not a nice man.

Yeah, his dad was not a nice man.

Yeah, his dad was not a nice man.

She did. She said that he molested Tylee. Did she say that? Yes. She kept throwing it around. And it's just like, when you drop it three times, that's when it just gets to a point where now you're trying to hurt something.

She did. She said that he molested Tylee. Did she say that? Yes. She kept throwing it around. And it's just like, when you drop it three times, that's when it just gets to a point where now you're trying to hurt something.

She did. She said that he molested Tylee. Did she say that? Yes. She kept throwing it around. And it's just like, when you drop it three times, that's when it just gets to a point where now you're trying to hurt something.

You're weaponizing something. I don't know what it is, but you're doing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. And again, if she didn't kill her kids, it'd be different. Yeah. Colby seems on the level, though, after watching the doc.

You're weaponizing something. I don't know what it is, but you're doing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. And again, if she didn't kill her kids, it'd be different. Yeah. Colby seems on the level, though, after watching the doc.

You're weaponizing something. I don't know what it is, but you're doing something. I don't know what the fuck it is. And again, if she didn't kill her kids, it'd be different. Yeah. Colby seems on the level, though, after watching the doc.