Ben Mandelker

Cause there's like mixed company there.

The ones that end on vacation are fine too.

I do enjoy that.

Like that the vacation is climactic, but I just feel like trying to chase this moment where you have a big reveal or some giant set piece that happens.

It's just going to like take us a little bit.

It's going to, it's sort of like heading, not saying it's happening, but it's heading towards jumping the shark.

And I would love it if like we sort of like cap it with this season.

Let's cap it with this Greek tragedy and let's like come back down to earth a little bit.

I hope I'm not being a party pooper, but that's like genuinely how I feel.

What do you think?

I mean, I enjoyed the camp value of it, but I just felt I do have like this nagging feeling like the producers are trying to like generate another break the Internet moment.

And I just I'm like, I kind of want them to stop trying to break the Internet and just like focus on like the women.

Well, I think, but I mean, we're seeing it on Bravo across the board.

I think in the, in the wake of Scandaval and in the wake of the season four finale, we're seeing a lot more of the housewives are finishing their seasons on vacation, which is not inherently bad, but I feel like they're trying to have these big, like, and here we picked up the kids, you know, we picked up the cameras or we're going to have a devastating twist in the finale.

And I feel like,

if the twist is there, if there is something to be twisted, then sure.

But like, we don't have to like, like, I don't know.

I just, I just worry that they're, they're trying too hard to tell us almost like how to like to, for us to be like, Whoa.

And I'm like, just focus, like let the, just let the women do what the women do best.

And I guarantee we'll be entertained and happy.