Ben McKenzie

Yeah.

And it got weirder from there, actually.

Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.

But just the notion that's even an option to do.

But it's a lot.

It's especially a lot, I would say, on the overseas exchanges.

And we should talk about that for a minute.

Okay.

Because especially at the time before they collapsed, when you were buying crypto on an exchange like FTX, what you were actually doing is send your money to the Bahamas because that's where FTX is based and banked.

And they told you you had X amount of Bitcoin.

Right.

The sort of trouble with that should be obvious, right?

Like then you're sort of subject to Bahamian securities regulation, I guess, or Bahamian banking laws, which may not be quite as tight as American.

But what's funny about it to me is that this has such a direct overlap with online poker.

You were at a similar age.

Remember in the mid-aughts, all of a sudden you could gamble with real money online.

Yeah, right, right.

It was like full tilt and ultimate bet and things like that.

And Dave was really into this.

And I loved poker.