Ben McKenzie

I was living up in Nichols Canyon.

I was single.

I had an actual poker table in my house.

It was that guy.

But like, I loved it.

It was fun.

And we'd hang with buddies and drink a beer and take each other's money.

But I never messed with online poker.

And I remember asking Dave, so you're gambling with real money.

Where are you sending the money?

And he goes, it's the same places.

They were based in the same Caribbean countries that the crypto guys were running their companies out of, which is such a vivid illustration of what we're talking about to the retail public.

This is gambling.

It's

sports betting now too is it also those same places uh no those are probably american companies i would say i think the difference with sports betting is they can't manipulate the outcome well i mean i guess players could well that's one of the problems with making this gambling so ubiquitous it's like it just compromises everybody including the leagues i would say the leagues are in on it now yeah it's a mess it's all sponsored by michael lewis on to talk about his podcast on this interesting this is another terrible and again this is where i get

Yeah.

And to give you a sense of like how strong it is in the young men, 42% of men 18 to 29 have dabbled in crypto, have traded crypto.

42%, almost half.

That's a lot of young dudes, right?

And look, most guys are just messing around.