Ben Meiselas (host)

And Donald Trump to humiliate Macari's like, I don't want to say.

In other words, Donald Trump forced him to resign over vapes.

Let's play this clip.

So then Donald Trump and Macari earlier in the year, as you know, announced a new childhood vaccine schedule, which was absolutely devastating and is absolutely devastating and fatal to children, removing recommendations from doctors and pediatricians, and basically saying that Donald Trump's view that little babies

are given like gallons of vaccines to inject in themselves.

Like that's not what happens at all, but that's Donald Trump's, you know, that was Donald Trump and Macari's view.

And so I'll show you right here this important moment just to show you what a bad guy Macari is.

This is April 23rd, 2026.

And this was when Democratic Congress member Alkin Kloss cross-examines RFK Jr.

about Macari and him making available these psychedelics without going through a process.

Whatever we think about psychedelics one way or another, you shouldn't have Joe Rogan sending a text message and that constitutes FDA approval.

But that's how things would get approved.

Joe Rogan sends a message, approved.

Now, Macari also bragged that one of the big scourges was the food pyramid.

He called it a very corrupt food pyramid.

And he was proud of getting rid of the most, the biggest problem facing America, a corrupt food pyramid.

He was asked, do you believe that there's no vaccine that's safe and effective?

Here was his response about that.

Then he claimed that...

An NIH funding lab brewed up a virus that killed 20 million people.