Ben Newman

They won.

Yeah.

No, so Saban's now, you'll see him on TV, and yeah, he's done coaching.

And I'll tell you, I really feel blessed.

I've been able to spend the bulk of my work in college football with Coach Saban and with Coach Kleiman, and those are the two winningest college football coaches over the last 15 years.

And it was like receiving a doctorate in leadership.

I mean, just the way those men would attack details, the way that they approached a never-finished mindset, the way that they approached an ability to always get better and to always stay hungry was extraordinary.

Well, you know, in addition to the book that I wrote called The Standard,

I wrote a book called Uncommon Leadership that came out years ago, and it highlights 11 leaders that have impacted my life from the unique ways in which they led.

So I'll give you two of them.

Otherwise, we're going to be on here.

We're going to set a record for your longest episode ever.

The two things I'll share with you from Coach Saban and Coach Kleiman because we're referencing them.

The whole chapter on Coach Saban talks about how the way you do one thing is the way you do everything.

Many leaders don't realize that Sean can only lead somebody to the level of discipline in which he lives.

So if you're sloppy, you're undisciplined, you're unorganized,

but you're asking people to be disciplined and organized, probably pretty hard for them to follow your lead, right?

So the way you do one thing is the way you do everything.

And then Coach Kleiman always taught us, and the title of his chapter in that book is called Find Your Edge in the Details.

Real hungry champions are never finished.