Ben Soffer

And that's how people who listen to the good guys know that I have developed a routine to make sure that I don't get mugged.

One is a fake phone call.

Yes.

It creates... We actually had, recently on The Good Guys, a CIA agent.

Oh, yeah.

And we spoke to him about this.

And he said it's a really great tactic because it makes the mugger feel that they are no longer one-on-one.

Yeah.

No, I love that.

No longer as vulnerable.

Yeah.

Because I'm on the phone.

Yeah.

And my thought was always...

oh oh yeah oh yeah hi police yeah i'm on the phone with the cops so why the fuck up so you just happen to be on the phone what a weird coincidence that the minute you get mugged you happen to be on the phone with the cops no it's normally like hi uh how are you oh good to see you yeah yeah i'll see you soon yeah or beeline for like a grocery store yeah or like a building with a doorman yeah that's good living in new york city is so crazy you guys it is um

Remember I wanted to invent that app?

Where you could see behind you.

I loved that idea.

You mean a camera?

I was a little paranoid.