Ben Symes

You look at some of the vitriol that's coming out of Tottenham fans and you've got to ask the question, who do you think you are?

When you look at the performances over recent years, obviously they had a really good spell and they obviously got to the Champions League final and they are capable as a club.

finishing top four they are capable of doing that and they have done that in recent years haven't they but generally the fifth sixth seventh eighth last year was obviously a you know a crazy year for them but they're not a they are not a top four club consistently are they they're not in there so it's like what they are a sixth seventh they're a team who probably should be in the fight to qualify for the conference league or Europa League that's what they are

and you know so they're underperforming this season but I think the expectation levels are way higher than they should be but I tend to agree with you guys I think it's unfair the injuries they've got and everyone has injuries I get that but you know I think if they can start to get players back we probably will see an upturn in performance and levels but again I think the European thing does hide it a little bit because I just think the Premier League must be

a step or two above a lot of these leagues.

And so when they go and play them, it looks relatively straightforward and they look good.

Yeah, I do like that Brentford one.

I mean, look, they are a touch of odds on, so I'm not saying it's a great price.

Minus one on the handicap for Brentford, given those goals I mentioned.

It's 13-5, so I don't mind that at all.

I can see Brentford scoring a couple against Forest, maybe even three.

Do Forest score at all?

I think they're really struggling.

But a lot of the others, you're right, it's hard to pick.

I mean, if you can trust the likes of Chelsea...

Those even money shots that you said, Chelsea, Liverpool at Bournemouth who are 17-20, reasonable price if they turn up.

Tottenham at Burnley should win that game, shouldn't they?

But it's not guaranteed.

Then there's some nice ones there.

One player who I thought was good in midweek set two goals at Wilson-Odober for Tottenham.