Ben Thompson

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42,103 appearances 120 recordings 2 series first heard Sep 2024 last heard 21 Aug

Ben Thompson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Anthropic is super focused on coding, as Thomas notes, because it sees coding as the way to once the AI can program itself, then yes, recursive self-improvement, and that's the actual sort of takeoff. podcast-host
And you'll you'll you humans aren't gonna program the AI to AGI. podcast-host
The AI is going to level itself up into podcast-host
No, this is I think this is kind of the opposite of bitter less lesson pilled. podcast-host
It it like they think they can podcast-host
Like for them, algorithms matter. podcast-host
The thing is, you just have to get to the algorithms writing their own algorithms. podcast-host
Uh, but yeah, it's interesting to put that in a bitter lesson sort of framework. podcast-host
My initial response would be no, it's it's actually slightly different. podcast-host
And so the reason why that is great for them from a business perspective is as we've discussed repeatedly, coding is a great application for AI. podcast-host
A lot of text and it's verifiable. podcast-host
Like it's so you you you which solves the problems of coming up with a bunch of text that might be hallucinating, or you can you it's impossible to sis systemically find issues and mistakes and go back and fix it and get this sort of recursive loop going on. podcast-host
And but this is very powerful from a business perspective because they are motivated by building God, as it were, their way. podcast-host
to build God is turns out to be a product that everyone wants to buy just to make business applications, right? podcast-host
And so everyone's pulling in the same direction. podcast-host
It's a podcast-host
OpenAI has had uh more more of a challenge. podcast-host
Open AI, to your point, when he's talking about scaling, he's talking about bitter the bitter lesson is about is about scaling loss. podcast-host
It's just get more data, make it bigger, do more and more, and like more compute and more data is gonna solve all your problems for you. podcast-host
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