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On the other, he seemed to be coping.

For fact-checking purposes, we want to make clear, the punch bowl is not ugly.

But go on, Vince.

For Ajay's running buddy, Randy Meggardly, there's no question.

Because, he says, Ajay was acting strangely, even more strangely than usual, in the weeks before his disappearance.

Ajay said similar things to Dave Rathbun, but he didn't put a lot of stock into any of the statements because he says Ajay is just a weird guy.

Initially, Rathbun was open to the possibility of suicide, but he's become increasingly skeptical over time.

Because if Ajay had killed himself, he thinks his body or some trace of him would have turned up by now.

So Ajay's colleagues are divided on what happened to him.

It's kind of like those faces seen in the rocks at the Devil's Punchbowl.

Same details, but interpreted in different ways.

And that makes sense, because we feel conflicted about it, too.

Ajay did say some eerie things about disappearing.

But this disappearing act would be pretty hard to pull off.

I mean, how could he have buried himself and stay buried for almost three decades?

Rathbun asked the sheriff's department to explain that one.

Randy Meggardly represents the other end of the spectrum.

So we ask him what he thinks about the possibility of foul play.

I've never heard the mushroom poop metaphor before.

At first, the mushroom poop analogy went way over my head.