Bhaskar Sunkara

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Anarchism runs a gamut from left to right in interesting ways.
So two things.
One is I do broadly believe in Marxist theory of history because it's just explaining how productive forces develop and the relations of production in any given system.
I guess there's a theory of transition from capitalism to socialism that Marx didn't really spell out, but it was kind of implied that it would naturally happen.
And Marx was living in an era of tremendous upheaval.
You know, Marx himself actually saw, when he was living in London in the 1870s, the Paris Commune.
When workers took over for just a few months, but they took over, the producers of Paris took over the city, basically created their own government, their own system, and so on.
So he was living through an era of upheaval.
And Engels, especially...
oversaw and was the mentor to all these rising socialist parties.
So he was very closely collaborating with socialists in places like Britain and Germany when they were drafting their first programs for the Social Democratic Party.
So
It felt like this was going to happen.
It felt like this rising working class would take power.
But I think the stability of the system was underestimated.
It's easy to see the contradictions in the system, but can you see its mechanisms of stability?
The way in which...
Mass collective action or revolution is more the exception or the norm.
Could you have imagined, if you're Marx, not only how much wealth the system would produce over time, which I think you could have imagined, but also developments like the welfare state and mass democracy and universal suffrage, which might have changed how workers...
relate to the system or operate within it.
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