Bhaskar Sunkara

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And also, I'm just not a utopian thinker, if that makes sense.
I like to think that I'm an egalitarian thinker.
I'm a socialist.
But...
my mind just goes to, like, you know, I could see a vision of the future that I would like, like, 50, 60 years from now.
Maybe there's some sort of future of superabundance and automation, and there's some sort of techno-utopian future.
We don't want some of those things that would exist in my, you know, five minutes from now vision of socialism.
But I just...
don't see it, and in general, I'm kind of wary of visions of change that seem like they're not built off little pieces that we have now and not built off history and experience and whatever else.
I don't want a year zero.
I don't even like the term prehistory because I think there's a lot...
In history that I want, you know, I want I want Shakespeare under socialism.
You know, I want I want a lot of things that that I think we should be grateful for.
There's a part of tradition that I think that exists that's hierarchical and exploitative and whatever else.
But there's another part of tradition.
That's our sense of place and belonging and our connection with the past and hopefully the future.
And I want to keep that.
Whereas if there is going to be a place for the monopoly on violence, let's just say we temporarily take that for granted.
Should it not be a place with a skilled, elected, accountable, transparent civil service with a democratic mandate and so on?
Maybe in the future, you can imagine certain calculation problems that arose during central planning solved through advanced computing.
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