Bhaskar Sunkara

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #349 – Bhaskar Sunkara: The Case for Socialism · 22 Dec 2022 podcast

But I would say that there's another whole set of problems with the system that were incentive problems.

And I'm not sure how that advanced computing would solve the incentive problems of how do you get people to actually produce things that other people want?

Kind of that informational question, how do you communicate?

without endless meetings or someone reading your brain, what do you actually want?

So, so there's, there's that kind of informational question, but then there's the incentive of, you know, how do you get people to work efficiently at work and how do you get firms to, to use their resources that they're getting more, more efficiently.

And I think solving the calculation problem solves some of these questions, but not all of them.

But, you know, that's kind of a who knows.

But if your vision of the future requires some sort of leap into a technological unknown, that's very hard to advocate for today.

So kind of like I kind of think that the agency part requires human beings and conscious human activity.

So I think if you have a sort of planning system that works and let's say the technology is there for it to work.

I would want it to be democratic planning in such a way that there is a human element, there is some debate and deliberation in society.

And also, even in my vision of socialism, with the state sector and state investments and so on, I want there to be more public discussion and debate about certain things.

So it's not just left to technocrats, because you'd want to live in society where you just find out the next day that there's some massive infrastructure project that you haven't

you know, had a chance to think about or debate or feel like you're participating in

And also our preferences might change.

So an AI system might say the goal of humanity is to just increase infinitely efficiency or increase output, whereas we might collectively decide that we've

We have enough and we want to, you know, have a trade-off, right?

And I think that, you know, we need a system that allows for people to make certain trade-offs.

Well, I think that hours reduction has always been an important demand for socialists.

So, I mean, it's been a reality in certain countries like France in recent decades where part of the logic is

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