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You're not looking at a 20-year-old trying to get to age 23 to fit the range you're trying to get to.

So even if you drafted Caleb this year and he's a hit, he's the number one center, your competitive window fits what you're talking about.

But now you'd be talking about, okay, now we have to fit all the other pieces.

Whereas if it's Stenberg, like, okay, where does he fit now that we have a 28-year-old center who's in his prime?

All those questions, like...

If he's playing well, that changes the timeline for me.

It's no longer five years.

It's, hey, we got to get this right by 2028, 2029.

Next one from V, meaty trade, trading Marcus Patterson.

I guess underrated based on...

I feel like overrated.

I'm going to say overrated.

Oh, just on the idea of the practicality of it.

I don't think there's... I'd be stunned if it happens.

Stunned?

That's why I say overrated, just because I feel like the value you could get if he plays well under Manny Malhotra and looks more like he should would be higher than what you could get right now.

Question.

Do we think that the Sharks link was maybe San Jose trying to get Marcus Pedersen and the 24th overall for 20th overall?

Yeah.

Stay kind of within the range of 20 and get another solid defenseman.