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Is there enough upside for Vancouver to make that trade, though?

Is it even easier for them to do it now from 27 to go to... 24?

No, to go down to 3 or 41.

41, I think, would be interesting.

If you go to...

Wait, a Werther for who?

For Vancouver.

For Vancouver.

Oh, okay.

Because I was like, yesterday you were trading Pedersen for second overall.

And from what we were talking about yesterday, if you're San Jose, do you go from 20 to 41 and go plus Pedersen-Kesselring?

It's like, okay, that's actually... You got a second defense pair and you move down 20 spots.

next one from Jim Leahy trading 41st this year for the Canucks second round pick next year overrated underrated oh so yeah so trading 41 for your own your own second next year you're shorting yourself almost I mean I'd rather just take 41 now

I think I would rather next year's pick, but I think Chicago says no.

Something like that?

Next one comes from Mike.

When trading with playoff teams, prioritizing late first round picks over grade A prospects, overrated or underrated.

Trading for picks from playoff teams instead of their prospects, overrated or underrated.

It all depends on who the prospect is.

My mind's still stuck on Vancouver, Chicago.