Bill Burnett

You were on a vacation, so you had time and you were paying attention to things because they were new.

They weren't your daily environment.

And then you were with someone, I assume, and being able to share that moment and say, wow, look at that sunset, look at that thing, it's so beautiful.

So it had, you were available, it was special,

You noticed the wonder of it, the mystery of it, and you had the ability to share it with somebody.

And all four of those things are readily designable.

You can design that moment.

Well, here's the...

Here's the trick in a sense, I guess.

It's called the scandal of particularity.

The scandal of particularity says, hey, you know, these infinite things, love, beauty, truth, joy, all these things like that, they are all infinite and the human brain is sort of finite.

And so it turns out our only experience of the infinite things like love, joy, and beauty, whatever, occur in a moment, in a finite moment.

So stacking those moments,

and recognizing, oh, wait a minute, I can actually be in flow for all sorts of moments, is how you make it work.

Well, thank you very much for the opportunity, Mike.

It was fun.

Great questions.

Thanks for having us.

We're thrilled to be here.

Yeah, this is fantastic.