Bill Burr

He's having a conversation with the 911 operator, and he's not winded, and he's perfectly calm while he's talking. I'm going to tell you right now, I don't think it happened that way.

What's this? This is a picture of Carrie's arm. And what you're seeing here is you're seeing the beginning of lividity, the purplish color from the pooling of the blood. You know, when the heart pumps, it pumps through the veins and the arteries. When the heart stops, everything settles to its lowest point. It's gravity. We have lividity set in in the body, and that takes time.

What's this? This is a picture of Carrie's arm. And what you're seeing here is you're seeing the beginning of lividity, the purplish color from the pooling of the blood. You know, when the heart pumps, it pumps through the veins and the arteries. When the heart stops, everything settles to its lowest point. It's gravity. We have lividity set in in the body, and that takes time.

And this was a problem with Bill Johnson and his team.

And this was a problem with Bill Johnson and his team.

Yeah, this is their home. So if he leaves his house at 11, 45 to 55 minutes later, lividity could not have been set in as it was in the photographs, all right?

Yeah, this is their home. So if he leaves his house at 11, 45 to 55 minutes later, lividity could not have been set in as it was in the photographs, all right?

We surmised that this was very likely done using a throw pillow off of a couch. It was kind of a coarse material that very likely could have caused an abrasion.

We surmised that this was very likely done using a throw pillow off of a couch. It was kind of a coarse material that very likely could have caused an abrasion.

It's ominous. It's almost like she is afraid of him.

It's ominous. It's almost like she is afraid of him.

During this investigation, we got a clue from a woman who worked in a jewelry store and said within a couple of weeks after Carrie's death, Matt Baker comes into the jewelry store with a woman and they're looking at engagement rings.

During this investigation, we got a clue from a woman who worked in a jewelry store and said within a couple of weeks after Carrie's death, Matt Baker comes into the jewelry store with a woman and they're looking at engagement rings.

This is Vanessa Bulls. She was the other woman. Now, this is a photograph that we found on his computer in trash.

This is Vanessa Bulls. She was the other woman. Now, this is a photograph that we found on his computer in trash.

Like I said, I'm going to ask you some questions about that, Carrie.

Like I said, I'm going to ask you some questions about that, Carrie.

Do you think that he had anything to do with her death?

Do you think that he had anything to do with her death?

So what do you do? And at some point, we have to do what we think is right. And in this case, it was to get a arrest warrant for Matt Baker.