Bill Kristol

I don't think we're at that stage yet in the U.S.

because we have state and local governments and because Trump hasn't been able to kind of get down to that level.

And maybe he doesn't personally want it.

But I feel like that's where I think gas prices, even Spirit Airlines, I mean, just the stuff that's starting to affect actual consumers, the tariff stuff to some degree.

It's like, you know, why is he doing this to us kind of thing, you know?

I think the inflation thing is interesting, because I've been a little bit

I think I've changed my mind a little.

I've been sort of thinking people are a little overdoing it here.

They remember Biden's inflation.

They're hypersensitive to it.

It's gone up some under Trump, and that's not good.

And some particular goods, obviously gas now.

But people, I mean, I don't know.

Does Trump deserve to be that low on inflation, really?

Is it really hurting people?

But I now wonder whether I've been...

that people are actually pretty smart about this in a way.

What they're seeing is quite a lot of inflation.

And if you look at some of the goods that people buy most regularly, that is true, not just gasoline, but, you know, other things they buy in grocery stores and stuff.

And I just talked to a couple of economists about this last week, and that can be a bit of a leading indicator.