Billy Bob Thornton

And so one way or the other, we started out fighting that stigma for, you know, 10, 12 years.

And then all of a sudden it started to go away because we got more and more fans and became a big underground band.

And in the last five or six years got really popular.

So here we are, old guys who are still making it, who are still on their way up at our age.

And so it kind of went the other way around with us.

And you're right.

I mean, to stick around that long, especially when it took us a while to get success, to make any money at it and to get the fan base we have now.

Not as much anymore.

That kind of goes away.

It goes away with the public, with the audience, with some of the critics.

It's still there because they want to say that about you.

It has nothing to do with your music.

It has to do with here's my angle for this article.

Yes.

My angle in this.

I mean, I did an article with a magazine one time that was kind of more of a men's magazine, you know, talked about music the whole time.

and talked about sex for about three minutes.

The whole article is about sex.

You know what I mean?

So that's just, that's what they do.