Billy Corgan

You know, there's something about that that's very... To me, it's Midwestern, but maybe it's just working class.

And there's the Midwestern version.

But what was strange to me is then when we first went to the coasts, we were made fun of for that.

You guys were.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, we were, but... You're too into it.

You're like, what do you mean?

Hard work?

Like, you were supposed to pretend that you didn't care.

that you didn't want to be successful?

I mean, that was... But it was weird.

We were like, huh?

Like, we love Chicago, but we want to get the fuck out of here.

This is my own harp, and I'm going to be quick about it because I really want to talk to you about your life.

But...

It's remarkable to me that most of the critical intelligentsia that I encountered in the late 80s, going into the 90s, into the 2000s, almost all of them were from upper middle class homes and had been to college.

And I'm talking about names we recognize, not Mundelein.

You know what I mean?

The point is, is they grew up in places where it's like, you get to have those opinions.

We didn't grow up in a world where we had the luxury of, you know, the first world complaint of, well, you're not wearing the right t-shirt.