Billy Corgan

Yeah, the song was like a mini movie.

So when you think of some of those great animal songs, it's like you're in a certain room.

It's not just the animals being the animals.

It's like they set the scenes.

Because you think about, you know, you're talking about four track recording.

Yeah.

So in order to achieve atmosphere, you've got maybe one or two chances to do it within the realm of a recording.

It's not like now where you can layer a bunch of sitters.

You've got to kind of pick one thing to kind of denote aesthetic vibe.

Had you started your Shakespeare education?

And then the girls with the Led Zeppelin, Bill Bucklesby.

Calligraphy, you're not talking about.

Okay.

So how do we get from girls with belt buckles beating you up to DJ punk rock?

I see.

It's funny you say that because the first time I ever laid eyes on you, the memory I have is the shoulders kind of thrown back.

Okay, but I'm saying, you know, you remember the ranks of the indie girls back in the day.

Yeah.

They were hardly like charismatic.

Sorry, I'm having my own moment.