Billy Corgan

It went on with people's secret drinking, drug use.

You know, we all grew up in the generation.

I look I look back at people in my own family and of course, people in our orbit who are obviously now in hindsight were obviously, you know, LGBTQ, whatever term you want to use.

And nobody but nobody would talk about it.

And all you ever got was like a joke.

Like, oh, Sally's a tomboy or, you know, Freddie sure walks funny.

And now we look back in empathy and we realize they were probably really suffering.

Because for people like us that were just so-called dealing with our heightened emotions, grappling with, you know, post-war America, baby boomer world and all that type of stuff.

I can't imagine what people in those circumstances went through.

It must have been really, really difficult.

I mean, because they were still dealing with all that stuff, and then... That's what I'm... They were... You're picking up what I'm putting down.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

They were going through the same stuff we were going through, and then they weren't even allowed to be themselves.

It was bad enough we couldn't be ourselves just being weirdos, right?

Or sensitive, right?

I'm sure you heard that.

Why are you so sensitive?

Exactly.

I still do, believe me.

So just before we talk about you joining REO for the first time, just give me your kind of musical landscape.