Billy Corgan

And well, that's obviously talking to both of you.

Yeah.

I saw this quote, and it's sort of around the time with your motorcycle accident.

I'm not asking you to necessarily talk about that.

I'm sure you've talked about it plenty.

But you were talking, I think, about a record that you made.

It's the one with the Cradle of Love, which obviously was a huge hit.

But you said something about how great life is, and I've been doing a good job of throwing it away.

That kind of stuck out to me.

And you can speak to whatever you want, but it's that kind of moment where you're like, wow, I've had a pretty good run here.

I don't know.

Speak to it however you want.

I just think it's interesting because not all of us understand like what it is to run our heads against a wall.

I'm with you on the running of my head against the wall.

Does it make sense the way I'm saying it?

Like rock is such an incredible thing.

And, you know, it's like a form of playing with fire, you know?

I mean, some of the things that I've done in my life that everybody told me at the time was the stupidest thing I could ever done.

That's the stuff they want to talk to me about now because it looks better in hindsight.

And, you know, when you're making those types of records and you're running hard, you're right on the edge of something.