Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

We get 80% of our energy from fossil fuels.

Still, as we did 50 years ago, 40 years ago.

Yeah, and people have no sense of this, right?

So they have the idea because you see so many wind turbines and solar panels and everybody's talking about it, that this is huge, big things.

But the reality is, remember, only about a fifth of all energy use is electricity.

The rest is processes and heating, industrial processes and so on.

So actually, solar and wind right now produces 1% of energy from wind and 0.8% from solar.

This is not a huge thing.

It's a fairly tiny bit.

And growing explosively.

Yes, it's absolutely growing.

But actually, it's growing slower than what nuclear was growing in the 70s and 80s, which I thought was a fun point.

Not by a little amount, by like two or three times.

So we're still talking about something which is somewhat boutique, at least.

And when you then look out into the future, and I think this is the interesting part of it, when you look out into the future, if you look at the Biden administration's own estimate of what will happen by 2050,

we will be at, you know, if all countries do all the stuff that they promised and everything, we will be at 70% fossil fuels by 2050 globally.

This is just, yes, it's a better world.

I think it's good that we're now down to 70 instead of 80, but it is still a world that's fundamentally dependent on fossil fuels for almost everything that we really like about the world.

And forgetting that, and I think we are doing that,

In the sense, as you also mentioned, that people say no fossil fuels.

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