Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

In all development organizations, we're now telling the poor countries, you can't get any funding for anything that has to do with fossil fuels.

We have literally reduced our investment in fossil fuels.

oil and gas by more than half since 2014.

And much of this is because of climate concerns.

This has real world consequences.

This is why energy prices have gone up.

It's not the only reason.

COVID also, certainly the war in Ukraine.

But this is an underlying systemic reason why fossil fuel costs will go up dramatically.

Now, a lot of Greens will sort of tend to say, well, that's great because we want fossil fuels to be expensive.

We want people to be forced over to renewables.

But that's very easy to say if you're rich.

It's the kind of thing that New Yorkers will say when you go to rich, well-meaning, green New Yorkers and say, yes, gasoline should cost $20 a gallon.

Well, you don't have a car.

You just ride the metro.

It's very easy for you to say that.

But lots of people, both in the rich world and in poor parts of the U.S.,

All around the world, their lives are basically dependent on fossil fuels.

And so the idea that we're going to get people off by making it so expensive that it becomes impossible for them to live good lives is almost morally reprehensible.

And I think Alex has the right point there.

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